Germans Actually Want US Troops Out Of Germany, Poll Finds

While Donald Trump is 100% correct on Germany being controlled by Russia, it’s not a 100% influence over Germany… and he’s also unwittingly helping someone else fill in the vacuum of a post-American-protected Europe. Europeans have already longed for the day American troops leave Europe, long before this poll ever came out. The question is who will fill that vacuum. The likely answer is a European Army replacing NATO, which is already Under Construction as we speak.

There may be partnerships going on between Europe and Russia, but Europe, militarily speaking, understands the need for its own independent defense mechanism and still feels threatened by Russia despite energy and business deals. Moreover, this is not necessarily something thought of by EU members as a whole, but Germany. Germany is the powerhouse of the EU and has always had ambitions to take Europe — even in this new generation. It dictates its policy and those who don’t follow end up being vassal states like Greece and Cyprus. Although harder to push around, Italy is the next target for the chopping block after the election of an anti-EU leadership. This is Germany’s way of getting member states in sync.

The creation of a new superpower is underway, all lead by Berlin’s Fourth Reich. If you’re still looking for Nazis, you’re 70 years too late. The game plan has changed, but the goal remains the same: A multi-national United States of Europe with its own European Army.

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A central irony behind Trump’s rumored “threat” that he could withdraw or at least greatly reduce American troops stationed in Germany, who last month wrote to Angela Merkel of “growing frustration in the United States that some allies have not stepped up as promised” on defense spending, is that Germans don’t actually want US troops on their soil to begin with, according to a new poll.

On Wednesday Trump slammed Germany from the moment he touched down in Brussels for expecting the US to foot the bill for Europe’s security in the face of Russian aggression while Germany and others cut massive energy deals with Russian energy companies. In an exchange the president promptly posted on Twitter, he said Germany is “totally controlled by Russia” in reference to the planned Nord Stream 2 pipeline, which is to supply the country with Russian natural gas. “Germany is a rich country,”Trump said, implying it should increase spending on its own defense.

It appears the German public agrees with Trump on this point as a YouGov poll  the results of which were first published for the dpa news agency on the first day of the NATO summit — finds that Germans would actually welcome American troop withdrawal from their soil (though a policy of outright US withdrawal is not on the table this week, nor is expected to be broached… but with Trump, who knows?).

The poll found that 42 percent said they supported American withdrawal while just 37 percent wanted the soldiers to stay, with 21 per cent undecided.” 

Citizens polled who were part of outlier or non-establishment political parties tended to be most strongly in favor of an American military exit from Germany:

Voters for the left-wing Die Linke are particularly in favour of withdrawal, with 67 per cent backing it, as are supporters of the far-right AfD, on 55 per cent. Greens also back withdrawal by 48 per cent.

Less supportive of withdrawal are voters for the centre-right CDU, at 35 per cent, the SPD at 42 per cent, and the FDP at 37 per cent. —The Independent

A continued theme the president is expected to emphasize this week in Brussels is to urge other governments of the alliance to dramatically increase military spending and lower import tariffs.

On this point, the YouGov poll shows the German public at odds with American and NATO leaders:

The same poll also found significant opposition to militarism in general in the country. Just 15 per cent of all Germans agree with Angela Merkel that the country should increase its military spending to 2 per cent of GDP by 2024, with 36 percent saying the country’s already spends too much on its military.

So interestingly, those surveyed tend to favor American security draw down in the heart of Europe along with a humble German foreign policy.

It could be that like many in the US, Germans are increasingly aware that such entangling (and some might say outdated) alliances as NATO only creates more unnecessary tensions and trouble in a world increasingly nervous over Western expansion and hegemony (a Cold War era “north Atlantic” alliance used for regime change in north Africa being a prime example).

Last month, a report suggested the Pentagon is already in the process of tallying the cost of keeping troops and its vast military bases (the US has over 20 – and many other joint command locations – with Ramstein Air Base being the largest; and at the height of the Cold War there were over 200) in Germany ahead of possible withdrawal. However, early this month Pentagon officials denied such an audit is taking place.

Figures from a 2016 Germany Embassy in the US fact sheet on US military presence in Germany since the early 2000’s:

  • Each year, Germany contributes nearly $1 billion to the upkeep of U.S. bases in Germany.
  • Ramstein Air Base, the biggest U.S. base in Germany, costs about $1 billion annually – an amount equal to Germany’s yearly contribution toward the upkeep of U.S. bases.
  • On average, the other 43 bases cost about $240 million each — about the same as a single F/A-22 fighter jet.
  • With 34,000 American residents, Kaiserslautern is the largest American community outside of the United States.
  • Since 1945, some 17 million Americans have served tours of duty in Germany. Many return time and again as tourists.

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